Thanks Greg, I'll take a look - I have been tinking about the Beetle for a while but haven't the courage to consider a build. Saw a completed "C" car for sale in FL - it was sold -former owner said it ran this past weekend. I still worry about (let see SSM, SM, FP, STU, ITA, ITS) ITC-Miata. Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and drink the SCCA Kool Aid.