I didn't know Stahl was cheap? I bought a Kromercraft system from James Clay, seemed like a lot of money, had a hard time coming to grips with the price, until it arrived, They look awsome! they fit great, I've used them for about a year and a half and have had no problems whatsoever. They are worth every penny. I'd love to have just the six into one collector as a vase! I could put two roses in each pipe. It's a work of art.