adding weight
- Thread starter zracre
- Start date
lateapex911
Super Moderator
Evan, relax, stick with the Teg, go to the ARRCs, have fun....
IF you are the fastest Teg, AND you get your butt whipped, then you might have a point, but seriously, read what Kevin said. You're going to be fine.
IF you are the fastest Teg, AND you get your butt whipped, then you might have a point, but seriously, read what Kevin said. You're going to be fine.
Hey, if it'll make you feel any better, Anthony Serra and I are coordinating meeting at his dyno shop and running both my car and his DC3 back-to-back. He's not convinced that my car has the almighty-power that everyone is concerned about; he just thinks I'm nuts...(Hey, wait a sec...! <_< )
We'll put this to bed soon... - GA
We'll put this to bed soon... - GA
gran racing
Super Moderator
How much are tickets to come watch that?!
Hey that's awesome. And Greg, as much as I respect your 2.0L motor and what it can do, imo it's the underdog in this test against this particular car. I hope you beat it in torque at least. And btw you're going up against this work of art.
I want a ticket too!
lateapex911
Super Moderator
I predict the torque will be a draw...Greg will have just a slight edge there. But the HP will be over 150.
I don't think I want to know how much more power he's getting than me. Rumor had it that his old second gen Integra was putting down 150whp. I find that kind of hard to believe but I don't know, if money wasn't an option and I had my own dyno, I might be able to do it. Might!
I predict that you'll have more torque and the power numbers will be pretty equal. What do I win if I'm right?
Actually Greg, I have to believe that you know exactly what your car's putting down, don't you?
I predict that you'll have more torque and the power numbers will be pretty equal. What do I win if I'm right?
Actually Greg, I have to believe that you know exactly what your car's putting down, don't you?
zracre
New member
In the Feb 2006 issue of GRM, they take a high mileage SER and bolt on some stuff...ebay intake, nice header a high flow cat and a cat back and get 135.62 hp and 123.31 lb ft....my integra before the rebuild (havent dynoed the final product yet...waiting for parts still) made 135.99 hp at 6500rpm and 127.94 lb ft at 5200rpm (dyno run done on day of ARRC test day). I have a not so good header but the head was rebuilt so I think my numbers should be pretty typical of a stock motor in IT trim before major stuff is done (the motor had 68k on it). I think your numbers should be right on his and maybe alittle more...147 demonstratable...what were the torque numbers? the GRM car seemed down but it is an over 100k motor
We pulled 147 the weekend after we returned from Atlanta. That's on a full-tilt-boogie built IT motor, brand new cams and rockers, etc.
The problem is that dyno numbers are like...navels...everybody's got a different one. The numbers you get are perfectly fine for you on that day, but hardly count as ISO standards. Further, I believe Serra uses a DynoJet and I use a DynaPack: the former drives off the tires, infers the horsepower from rate of acceleration and backwards-calcs the torque; the latter bolts to the hub, limits the rate of acceleration (and can actually hold it to a specified RPM), measures torque directly, and calculates horsepower (as is done on an engine dyno). So, same way, same day is the only real way to do direct dyno horsepower comparisons...
Evan, I don't remember exactly, but I seem to recall I got 147hp at 6800 rpm (and it falls off precipitously after that) and 138 tq around mid-4000s... - GA
zracre
New member
I also used the Dynapack for my test. really cool set up. 138 ft lbs? you will do well against Serra on the Dyno...the B18 has a hard time with the torque thing...and if you can pull the same number...awesome 
I hope Serra fixed his car since the ARRC...his new car broke (only time I ever saw it) but damn it was a nice looking machine!! maybe just teething problems.
I hope Serra fixed his car since the ARRC...his new car broke (only time I ever saw it) but damn it was a nice looking machine!! maybe just teething problems.
Andy Bettencourt
Super Moderator
I will also get my results up (dynojet) for my 1.8 Miata build with full programmable ecu. Greg will probably get a call from the dyno, but they will make it here soon after!
AB
AB
lateapex911
Super Moderator
I am guessing Serra will be in the 134 range for tq, and over 150 for power.
he pulled out of the ARRCs due to the machine gun rock blasts he suffered during the opening lap(s)...I think 4 holes in the windsheild and one in the radiator.
he pulled out of the ARRCs due to the machine gun rock blasts he suffered during the opening lap(s)...I think 4 holes in the windsheild and one in the radiator.
