Air dam/splitter discussion

Except the rule clearly states that "on cars with integrated bumpers, the front spoiler or airdam may be attached to the bumper cover". Totaly legal. [/b]
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Well just for the fun of it... in the photo, how can you tell what the support rods (which are clearly part of the 'spoiler') attach to? The details of the upper ends of the rods are not shown, but I'd bet they're prolly not fastened to the 'bumper cover', which is most likely a fairly flimsy piece of molded plastic.
 
Before I go any further, some of you need to lighten up a tad or two. Please do not be selective in your word reading. Below is from a previous post by me. < This is not refering to you Bill.

"Fun playing upsmanship & twisting things untill the poster (me) thinks he's correct."

Steve, was your last post funny?

Jake, everyone should read everything someone else says a couple times & then continue to question what they said or typed. Measure sevearl times, CUT once. ;)

Gary, being that Colin started this thread I'll presume the red car shown is a Miata & yes the bumber cover is a fairly flimsy piece of molded plastic. Anyone doing any serious business with their horizontal element of their airdam/spoiler wouldn't connect the mounting rods to the flimsy material. We agree that the rods are prolly not attached to the fairly flimsy piece of molded plastic therefore they are attached to something by viewing the picture not within the air stream therefore ILLEGAL. :023:

James, I agree with you about the physical shape of an airdam/spoiler that they may be in about any plane anyone desires to fab them. :D

James, let me below take another shot at my teasing technial sense of homor. :D

If in the picture of the red car within the first post IF the manufacture called the red attached piece below the intergrated bumper assembly a "bumper cover extension" them we would need to call the black part in same picture the airdam/spoiler correct. Also for my purpose of teasing argue we need to forget about Andy's NACA ducts mounted in a horizontal plane. Now with all that ^ said the black piece called an airdam/spoiler is not tall enough in the vertical plane to implement normal duct openings for cooling brakes, correct. If one is allowed by rule to implement normal brake duct openings (for fun call the opening 3 inch diameter) for cooling brakes in the airdam/spoiler then one would think that the vertical surface would need to be larger in dimension than the 3 inch diameter of the duct opening which the black piece is not therefore the black piece is ILLEGAL. Twisted & evil BUT if the manufacture called the red piece a bumper cover extension that little thin maybe 3/4 inch thick black piece would be found ILLEGAL even IF it was legally mounted. :o

:lol: :happy204: :o :rolleyes: ;)
 
David, read your post 4 times. Um, what? Steve E. is right. If you have an integrated bumper cover, you can attach your spoiler to it. That's what happened here. Legal.
 
***David, read your post 4 times. Um, what?***

Jeff, are we having fun yet? Which post by number are you refering to? If your refering to my post # 25 that post is written in lawyer speak.


***Steve E. is right. If you have an integrated bumper cover, you can attach your spoiler to it. That's what happened here. Legal.***

I aggree the spoiler may be attached to the bumper cover, BUT not legal when you attach (rods) the spoiler to something that's not to the body & not within the air stream. ILLEGAL........It's quite understandable that neither you or I would attach our spoiler to the flimsy bumper cover. For argue purpose I'll guess that where the spoiler is attached to the bottom of the flimsy bumper cover that it's also attached to more than the flimsy bumper cover.

While Colin sits back laughing. :rolleyes: :lol:

ps: When we put on our common sense hat, we ALL know that the rule was written for a vertical air dam/spoiler. Ya Ya I understand the rule has no description about what plane the surfaces of an air dam/spoiler may be. I said put on a common sense hat. :023:
 
I did put a smiley face David. Where in the rule does it say anything about mounts or anything else in the "airstream". It is mounted to the bumper or body. Do you want to split hairs and say they meant to say body and not frame or in this case "unibody". Pull out your own common sense hat. Body is defined as parts licked by the airstream and I can find lots of parts in that grill opening licked by the air.
 
*** Body is defined as parts licked by the airstream and I can find lots of parts in that grill opening licked by the air.***

Steve, there are all kinds of parts within the person compartment of a car that are secondarly touched by air from outside the car. Do you believe that air is what is ment to be the "air stream"? If you do you need to in your words "Pull out your own common sense hat". Gee, the carpeting within the person compartment is in the air stream therefore the carpeting is part of the body. :rolleyes: Or the air that eventually touches the hood latch or hood hinges is part of the body. :o :lol:

Break time from this thread ;)
David
 
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