April SIR ruling

Steve, I started with class. I was shat upon for, among other things, not posting my real name & my # of posts.

You are sadly one-sided in your outrage. And still, the real issues I have raised remain ignored. Ironic that I keep trying to bring the conversation back to them, and I keep getting attacked, isn't it?

Bill, I am honestly glad we see some common ground. I am also glad you saw the humor in our mutual name-joking.

I want no pound of flesh, Bill. However, I do believe accountability is sorely lacking in this situation. All I see is repeated wagon-circling & attack-the-messenger(s). Yes, you will see my letter. And no, I am not an only child. Next?

Joe, you are correct--that's me. Do we know each other? Is my affiliation with Anchor in any way relevant?
LateApex, here is why this is such a "big deal": this rule change (first 27mm, now 29mm), due in 5 weeks, costs major $$$ for the BMW ITSers. When it is unproven, ill-conceived, and based on bullshit, being required to spend big bucks for crap is going to be...um...unpopular.
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None other than I like to know who I talking to.
 
Hey Jake... You're right I don't know yet...and I won't know until I order and implement the 29mm SIR...


You know...you highlight a perfect example of JUST WHY the release of the other dynos (strong baseline motor among them I hope/assume?) would benefit ALL of us!
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Agreed, we all want to see the math.
 
Aw, geez, Jake.

First of all, pardon the hell out of me for trying to inject a little bit of humor into this stuff with the user name I chose. If you are going to make issue with that, have a field day. You will get no further responses from me on that, because it is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT.

Second, sorry but I am not inclined to disprove a negative just for your amusement. Public promises were made, public derision was ladled thickly upon those who questioned and/or doubted, and now further public derision is being ladled upon those who want some accountability for this debacle, instead of blaming Raetech and Bill Kim. People are being forced to either spend huge sums for technology that, so far, has proven NOT to perform as advertised by the rulemakers, or to leave ITS.

And all you have is circular arguments trying to redefine what "is" is?

That, and some of the other crap that this thread has seen (including posting my photograph), is only proving my points, Jake. Y'all need to step back to really see what is going on.
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OK, we will agree to disagree on the name and the attitude ... no problem.

Sadly I can't let this go..... without stating that I am not blaming anyone. esp Bill Kim!

And I differ on whether the technology performs as it needs to..

...which is to make the car fit the process....

THAT has not been proved or disproved.

The rest of this hype is really immaterial. I know you think it matters if cars below the build level are affected,, and you will throw the entire case out for that "mistruth", and thats your right...it's your opinion...

My opinion is that we haven't seen evidence that the SIR will, or will not, create a car that fits the process.

We differ. We have the right in America to do just that.

I'm off to be productive.
 
This thread has really degenerated to new all time lows. I own and run a forum and I'd have cut the plug on such a thread at this point. Maintaining a reasonable signal to noise ratio is important and I fear we've crossed the threshold value to unreasonable. Let's get back to some real IT discussion that is somewhat productive.
 
Guys, Gals....etc, enough is enough. The posting of Dave's picture is uncalled for! Dave has every right to express himself even if 1/2 of it is Bullshit. It does not matter what I or anyone else thinks, he expressed himself so be it. Now Dave, I ask you since the CRB has made the ruling and we can't do anything about it, what's next? Do you quit racing SCCA or do you try & make the SIR work? Actually it's pretty simple, you do or don't. I have every bit as much at stake as every other BMW E36 driver. I plan to do what is right for me, I think you should do the same Dave because no matter who, how, or why this has happened it has. Just deal with it in your own way just don't use the people that are trying to make "racing close" your pissing post. I hope you have understanding & class to get past this. This isn't just for Dave but everyone that has been abusive.
 
Guys, Gals....etc, enough is enough. The posting of Dave's picture is uncalled for! Dave has every right to express himself even if 1/2 of it is Bullshit. It does not matter what I or anyone else thinks, he expressed himself so be it. Now Dave, I ask you since the CRB has made the ruling and we can't do anything about it, what's next? Do you quit racing SCCA or do you try & make the SIR work? Actually it's pretty simple, you do or don't. I have every bit as much at stake as every other BMW E36 driver. I plan to do what is right for me, I think you should do the same Dave because no matter who, how, or why this has happened it has. Just deal with it in your on way just don't use the people that are trying to make "racing close" your pissing post. I hope you have understanding & class to get past this. This isn't just for Dave but everyone that has been abusive.
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Of course, DJ. Thanks.

Frankly, the posting of my photo, and the crap that accompanied it, reflects a lot worse on the people behind posting it. I suspect New Guy is the second account (a TOS violation) of a regular poster here...but who cares? They have made themselves the fool with that post, and only butressed the points I was trying to make. I have nothing to hide. Apparently, however, some folks taking futile shots at me do. their over-reaction shows just how close to the mark this issue cuts for them, it seems. 'Nuff said on that.
 
Of course, DJ. Thanks.

Frankly, the posting of my photo, and the crap that accompanied it, reflects a lot worse on the people behind posting it. I suspect New Guy is the second account (a TOS violation) of a regular poster here...but who cares? They have made themselves the fool with that post, and only butressed the points I was trying to make. I have nothing to hide. Apparently, however, some folks taking futile shots at me do. their over-reaction shows just how close to the mark this issue cuts for them, it seems. 'Nuff said on that.
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Well Dave how about you be the bigger dude here and register with some kind of proper name and lets get down to making these things work for every one.
 
Oh, good grief, Joe. Get off it!

I do not see how my choice of user name has any more relevance than yours. Way to focus on the unimportant...

You got your wish--finding out who I was. Now it is time to let it go, Joe.
 
Yee gods, if I looked like this I'd be acting like a spoiled brat too:

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Hey, they tell me that "only steers and queers come from Texas...and you don't much look like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down..."

Got a joke for you: What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine? The pricks are on the OUTSIDE of a porcupine!!

This is fun...even for my first post...Remember, we're all LAUGHING AT YOU...
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You sir are a jackass of the first order, and I hope the webmaster does the right thing and outs your ass! :018:

'Sack, how about you change your name to Mike Hunt (I actually knew someone by that name!!!)? If you don't see the sophomoric nature of it, then I can't help you. We're supposed to be adults here, engaging in mature discourse. There is a time and a place to be a jokester.
 
Oh, good grief, Joe. Get off it!

I do not see how my choice of user name has any more relevance than yours. Way to focus on the unimportant...

You got your wish--finding out who I was. Now it is time to let it go, Joe.
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Actually Dave, It has more to do with the lack of humor in the name. This forum has been a pretty decent clean place to participate in and even guys like me that loose it from time to time have edited out most of the wrong stuff. You don't represent anyone well with that name or attitude. I have now been polite and asked nice twice. The relevance to my name is it is my real name and I have enough sack to back up what I say with my real name.
 
Now for something completely different...

If the SCCA has not specified a 'spec' SIR (ie Raetech) what exactly determines what a 29mm SIR is...???

Has the SCCA provided a definition of this part...if so...where can we find it...?
 
I think the point that everyone here is missing is that regardless of the outcome of the dyno findings and on track results there is always going to be differences of opinion on whether this whole issue has been handled correctly and in a timely manner.

That aside, the abusive attacks on BOTH sides of this issues are out of hand. As one of the original members of this forum, I have become increasingly shocked and disgusted by the denigration of these discussions into personal attacks, and regulated by the "who can yell the loudest and longest" syndrome. I also feel like most discussions here become hijacked by half a dozen or so of the members here who feel the need to argue back and forth endlessely untill the rest of us walk away from the discussion because of "fatigue" and disinterest.

I don't think we as a "group" have ever totally agreed on a subject. Thats fine. That's why we have discussions on this board. But too many times these discussions turn into bullying sessions, rants, personal attacks and worse.

We are all smart people here, and we can do better.
 
A rediculously large % of you acting up here have already been chastized in the last episide of IT.com character assasination... and frankly I'm a little surprised since I know some of the repeat offenders personally... you wouldn't act this way in person, why do it here?

Now since I hate to type... I wil refer you to the links below... you know what the next step is. RLEAP is correct and I wont have the few ruin this site for the masses.

http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/...indpost&p=70254

http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/...indpost&p=70323
 
now for some serious business. talked to raetech no 29mm SIRfor about a weekor more.
time is ticking away,you think scca would have let the instigator of the SIRknow what size to
keep in stock ???????
 
now for some serious business. talked to raetech no 29mm SIRfor about a weekor more.
time is ticking away,you think scca would have let the instigator of the SIRknow what size to
keep in stock ???????
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Yeah, you'd think, wouldn't you?

Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice....well, you know the rest.

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Yeah, you'd think, wouldn't you?

Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice....well, you know the rest.

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Well considering that the CRB has been accused of being bought by raetech I guess this is proof that ain't true. You can buy the SIR housing today so you can install it and have them ship the insert when it's done. So you don't loose install time that everyone's complaining about.
 
Well considering that the CRB has been accused of being bought by raetech I guess this is proof that ain't true. You can buy the SIR housing today so you can install it and have them ship the insert when it's done. So you don't loose install time that everyone's complaining about.
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Sigh.......

We were told that they we informed of the decision.
 
Well considering that the CRB has been accused of being bought by raetech I guess this is proof that ain't true. You can buy the SIR housing today so you can install it and have them ship the insert when it's done. So you don't loose install time that everyone's complaining about.
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That's a crock and you know it Joe. You were one of the main people that said that the engine would be "blind" to the SIR below its target hp. Sounds like you bought into Raetch's line of crap pretty hard. You picked the wrong horse.

Jake,

Sigh is right!
 
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