Coil Over Threaded Sleaves

<font face=\"Verdana, Arial\" size=\"2\">...to really beat <Darin's> dead horse... <grin - GA></font>

Not exactly, Jake...what I'm "saying" is that to the letter of the rules threaded body shocks are allowed in any form - even to adjust the perch. They are allowed because they are not disallowed. Follow me here...

- ITCS D.5.b.1 allows alternate shocks as long as the pickup points are unmodifed. There are no restrictions to those shocks within the pickup points (except for remote reservoirs and # of adjustments); therefore absent further restrictions threaded bodies are allowed.

- ITCS D.5.b.2 allows substitute struts, inserts, modified spring seats, doing the same as above for struts.

- ITCS D.5.b.3 allows alternate suspension springs, as long as they are of the same type, thereby allowing adjustable coilover suspensions using racing springs.

- ITCS D.5.b.4 is in regards to leaf springs.

- ITCS D.5.b.5 prohibits permanantly attached threaded sleeves to a strut or shock absorber.

Therefore, the prohibition on threads applies to SLEEVES, not the shock or strut bodies themselves. If you don't use sleeves, then threads directly on the body of the shock or strut are, therefore, legal.

Now, one could argue that struts with inserts have parmanently attached sleeves to the damper, but it would be a weak argument; I would counter that inserts can be removed therefore the "sleeves" are not permanently attached, and I can also argue that to support that point would mean that cars with shocks versus struts would have a distinct and unintentional advantage.

I'm not ignoring Darin's last post; it's well-noted and I hope the foreshadowed premise comes true. Regardless, I offer this post simply to explain why I think that to the letter of the rules and not to the spirit of the rules that threaded-body shocks are legal.

Bottom line, if the purpose was to ban threaded-body shocks and struts, it's poorly worded and is only supported in practice due to long-standing assumptions and expectations.

GA
 
Sorry guys... the latest (April) Fastrack is out, but there is NOTHING for IT in this one. Looks like the focus is mostly on Production and GT for this month.

We'll have to wait until next month to see what is happening with all of these issues...



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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Renton, WA
ITS '97 240SX
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This is a good thread since the rule is a joke. However we can sit here bullshit all day, the bottom line is to send a letter to the Comp Board and voice your complaints. Thats what I did, if enough people send letters the rules will change.
 
Grrr! I thought my reclassification request was being addressed in this issue based on my conversation with the club racing headquarters. (sent in November 2003)

I wonder how much longer it will be?

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Dave Gran
NER #13 ITA
'87 Honda Prelude
 
Originally posted by gran racing:
I wonder how much longer it will be?


I think "being addressed" and actually being PRINTED might be a little out of sync.

I was told that the CRB spent this time dealing with issues that have been on the books for 4-5 months in some other classes.

Perhaps the next issue will be stocked full of IT stuff, since this one was full of Prod stuff...

Doesn't pay to be impatient, however... Most of these rule changes and such don't take effect until after the BoD votes on them in August or December...

Just another agonizing month of waiting... and hoping we are getting something accomplished!



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Darin E. Jordan
SCCA #273080, OR/NW Regions
Renton, WA
ITS '97 240SX
DJ_AV1.jpg
 
Cripes! I thought it was a simple question and had quit reading responses after the 2nd one.

Not to worry. Spring is coming, we'll get to go racing soon instead of being confined to just talking about it.

I do think its pretty neat to see interest level is there. Leads me to believe that although the class will change & evolve, its here to stay.

Thanks for answering my question.
 
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