Fixed that for you...
HANS... the other shoe's dropped
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Thanks, Greg....LOL
Prince Makaha
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Someone needs to make a restraint device called "franz".
It could be anything from arm restraints to puffy knee padding to keep your knees from banging together in case of hard contact (ask geoff brabham).
It could be anything from arm restraints to puffy knee padding to keep your knees from banging together in case of hard contact (ask geoff brabham).
I was there for that incident at NHIS. It was 2005. It was neither MI nor HNR. Driver left the track alive.
I don't have any issue with sending in my HANS every few years for them to X-ray for microscopic cracks. My wife doesn't mind either. It's $15, I piss more than that away on crappy track food each weekend. Same with tethers, every 3 years a new set of tethers is not a big deal to me.
I DO have an issue with the BS specification that interior right side nets have to be replaced every two years, and the same for window nets. At the very least, window nets which are exposed to more light, dirt, grime and wear should be good for 5 years.
I DO have an issue with the BS specification that interior right side nets have to be replaced every two years, and the same for window nets. At the very least, window nets which are exposed to more light, dirt, grime and wear should be good for 5 years.
dickita15
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I have no reason to believe that recertification involves more than a visual inspection.
SCCA has no such rule.
lateapex911
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They X Ray them?? Really? Wow, I didn't know that.
Marcus Miller
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James was referring to an incident at Buttonwillow, nothing about NHMS.
Z3_GoCar
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Thanks Marcus, but I did refer to it. That event, as I percieved it, was one of the reasons why BMW Club Racing adopted the H&N restraints as strongly and as early as they did. I stand corrected on it, becuase I only know what I'd read on the Club Racing message boards at that time.
Marcus Miller
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Aaahhh, I see it now, I just read what he had quoted..., my bad.
My guess is that SCCA will not enforce the five year SFI 38.1 re-certification process. Which kinda doesn't make sense, given the implied reasoning for requiring FIA/SFI 38.1 is that the Club has a certification against which to lean, legally and technically. However, it is consistent with the Club not requiring replacement of window nets every five years as well as not requiring replacement of FIA seats (or back brace it) every five years (but not consistent with seat belt replacement requirements).
GA
GA
I'm learning that the only thing consistant about SCCA Club Racing is it's inconsistancy...........
lateapex911
Super Moderator
My take is that it's a group of guys who are trying to do what they think is right in their mind. Now, with a bunch of people, that 'line" between right and wrong is tough to pin down, so the group might vote 3 to 4 on one thing and 4 to 3 on another that you and I see as nearly identical issues. then you fold in the fact that the group changes over time, and you get some inconsistencies.
The ITACs rejection of a simple engine mount allowance, years ago, and now their current acceptance of a much larger allowance that purportedly allows driveshaft rubber to be replaced as well, is a great example of this.
The ITACs rejection of a simple engine mount allowance, years ago, and now their current acceptance of a much larger allowance that purportedly allows driveshaft rubber to be replaced as well, is a great example of this.
What Greg said. If the Club isn't going to accept all of SFI 38.1, they are (a) not getting what the THINK they are getting (ignoring that they really aren't getting that anyway, and (b) going to eventually fall afoul of their buddies at SFI. My guess is that as along as SFI gets their geld, they won't care TOO hard but someone needs to read the restraint-of-trade - sorry, membership - agreement that they signed.
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