IT going National - your opinion

[Bill Miller]

Same numbers for NARRC

ITS - 58
ITA - 79
ITB - 51
ITC - 18
IT7 - Don't have IT7
ITE - 33

Note: These numbers my include some double-counting between NARRC and MARRS, as I believe the MARRS out-of-regiona race at WG is also a NARRC race. It looks like the MARRS folks that ran that race also collected NARRC points.

 

[tnord]

Maybe they should have moved to CA.

How many racers show up at "normal" events during the year at Topeka's race track? Bet it is far shy of the numbers you get there, or we get in the SE.

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give me your definition of a "normal" weekend and i'll tell you.

iirc there were about 200 at the national weekends.

 

[Bill Miller]

SARRC participation

ITS - 89
ITA - 99
ITB - 61
ITC - 44
ITE - Don't have ITE
IT7 - 48

 

[tnord]

All kidding aside, Kirk's right Travis, your opinion doesn't have any less value, but don't look for a lot of sympathy. Honestly, it's starting to remind me of some of the arguements put forth during the E36 SIR discussions. And honestly, I think that you'd be happy to have the top guys go National racing. You almost be assured a podium at a Regional w/o spending any more money.

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who's looking for sympathy? all i've ever touted through all threads on this topic was to consider others outside of the east coast when making the decision.

there's a few assumptions imbedded in your post bill that i find rather humorous. you might want to look here, although i know it's rather insignificant compared to what it would mean 1000miles east of KC.

 

[Bill Miller]

give me your definition of a "normal" weekend and i'll tell you.

iirc there were about 200 at the national weekends.
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Travis,

It's probably a safe bet that the National numbers were a bit inflated as you had people that wanted to drive the track before the Runoffs. There were definately people on the Prod board that said they went for that reason.

who's looking for sympathy? all i've ever touted through all threads on this topic was to consider others outside of the east coast when making the decision.

there's a few assumptions imbedded in your post bill that i find rather humorous. you might want to look here, although i know it's rather insignificant compared to what it would mean 1000miles east of KC.
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Ok, so putting up the same numbers for the link you gave me

ITS - 8
ITA - 16
ITB - 8
ITC - 1
ITE - 10
IT7 - 6

That only counts drivers who scored points (just like from the other series)

And please tell me what imbedded assumptions that you find humorous. And I'm still not sure what low or high participation numbers has to do w/ people's desire for IT to be National. You seem to be saying that areas like the one you cited would not want IT to be National because they don't have many IT racers. Is that it? Help me out here, because I really don't understand what your point is.

 

[tnord]

And please tell me what imbedded assumptions that you find humorous. [/b]

doesn't really matter.....it applies to my individual situation, which is not what the discussion is about. sorry to veer OT.

 

[IPRESS]

There are two sides of this going national deal for sure. Either you want it to go that way or not. I n-know from the SM experience that the PTB is not really for more national classes. (And then they add some new ones in spite of it.) On the other side the whole class designation seems to be influx so if you want to shoot for it now might be the best time. In SM at least 90% or more wanted to be considered for national status. Not sure from what I have heard it is that way in IT.

 

[IPRESS]

I don't know if it means anything to you guys, but Track Sponsored track day for the Runoffs is $400 and the Trans Am cars are part of the deal. My old SM buddies think the ARRC practice day was pretty dang good now! AH, the glory of being a big time national racer!

 

[Bill Miller]

I don't know if it means anything to you guys, but Track Sponsored track day for the Runoffs is $400 and the Trans Am cars are part of the deal. My old SM buddies think the ARRC practice day was pretty dang good now! AH, the glory of being a big time national racer!
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Mac,

I don't think anyone thinks, or is saying, that you won't spend more money going National racing. That's the way it is today in any of the National-eligible classes, it will cost you more if you want to run Nationals vs. Regionals, even if you don't change your prep level. Point is, nobody makes you do it.

 

[IPRESS]

Bill, I know I just don't think I would have any self control!