Ditto. However, while I have not checked, I'm pretty sure the first v8s were run through at either 30 or 35%.
We did the Vette at 25% since we don't have any real build data for it, but I suspect that number is low.
Ditto. However, while I have not checked, I'm pretty sure the first v8s were run through at either 30 or 35%.
We did the Vette at 25% since we don't have any real build data for it, but I suspect that number is low.
Let not one person on this forum complain again that the ITAC works behind closed doors in smoke-filled rooms...
There's a reason you don't want to watch sausage being made.
In the end, they got what I thought was an aggressive factor, either 30 or 35%. Andy?
Quoted for posterity...sorry, couldn't resist...Driving the sausage is [fun].
In the end, they got what I thought was an aggressive factor, either 30 or 35%. Andy?
Now come on. I'm sure you've driven your sausage a few times.....
Well, I thought it was 11.25 and did the calculations but they are even more off. I convinced myself it was 11.5.
If it is 11.25 then:
215 x 1.25 x 11.25 = 3023 lbs. Spec weight is 3195, so the difference is 172 lbs. Where did the 172 lb adder come from? And the other V8 cars have trouble too.
1996-1998 Mustang at 225 stock hp, the weight is 3164. But it is listed in the ITCS at 3390 lbs! Where did the 225 lbs adder come from?
87-98 Camaro, 230 stock hp, the weight is 3234 lbs. Listed weight is 3465 lbs, a 230 lb adder. What for?
All there of these cars are off weight calculated using standard procedures. I got a feeling there is more wrong in ITR than just double wishbone cars.
If the engine was in the rear, he paid a penalty.Only in college, but he says he was drunk.
215 @ 30% with a 50lb torque adder is right on.
225 @ 30% with 100lb torque adder is right on.
230 @ 30% with 100lb torque adder is right on.
Amen bro. And more and more making the freaking sausage ain't much fun.
Driving the sausage is.
And a Vette:
205 @ 30% with 150lb torque adder, 3150 lbs, much lighter than some of the Pony cars. That doesn't pass the smell test. I seriously doubt that 350 inch motor won't see higher outputs than the 302/305 Ford/GM twins, plus it has better brakes, aero, and suspension (things we don't worry about in IT).
Just based on cubic inches? Come on. The car was 205 stock vs. much more for those cars. The simple addition of the TPI manifold in 1985 bumped power 25hp!!! That's over 350lbs in ITR weight.
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At some point common sense has to be used.
Interestingly enough, this isn't unlike my Mustang build. 1998 Mustang, 150hp. 1999 Mustang, 190hp with the only apparent change being the intake. However, digging deep into it things are not as they seem. And I suspect the situation is the same for the 205hp C4 Vette.