My first driver's school
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gran racing
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It only works on paper.
mattbatson
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I guess I have to wonder how accurate the formula for how much weight = how much power....
I think we underestimate how important torque/hp are in relation to weight.
It seems like in each class, the cars with more torque/hp...despite their extra weight...are faster.
In ITB it is the volvo's, for instance, which are very heavy...but man do they hustle down the track. When on track with a volvo, I am almost in disbelief that they are in the same class as me. There is absolutely nothing I will ever be able to do to my car that will enable me to even stay in the draft of one of those volvo's.
In ITS it may be the BMW's....ITA has the 240 and Nissans with their big torque/hp numbers...
Power is king. Weight seems...well, less important.
As a result, I would think the second gen MR2 would wupp up on a first gen. Despite the extra 300lbs. Much more torque and HP.
I could be wrong though
I think we underestimate how important torque/hp are in relation to weight.
It seems like in each class, the cars with more torque/hp...despite their extra weight...are faster.
In ITB it is the volvo's, for instance, which are very heavy...but man do they hustle down the track. When on track with a volvo, I am almost in disbelief that they are in the same class as me. There is absolutely nothing I will ever be able to do to my car that will enable me to even stay in the draft of one of those volvo's.
In ITS it may be the BMW's....ITA has the 240 and Nissans with their big torque/hp numbers...
Power is king. Weight seems...well, less important.
As a result, I would think the second gen MR2 would wupp up on a first gen. Despite the extra 300lbs. Much more torque and HP.
I could be wrong though
JeffYoung
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Guys, wanted to let everyone know that Steve made it through his school with flying colors (and no help from me). Car ran great, he drove great and everything was great. Except the weather. Those guys on Saturday had the nastiest school weather (50 degrees and raining) I've seen. Carnage level was low. Lots of offs, but guys did a good job avoiding each other. Congrats to all.
steve b
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I wouldn't say no help from you; your moral support early on was very helpful. Tell Jeff (the other Jeff) that he was very impressive showing up with no track experience and running as well as he did. I can't imagine taking a school on a strange track, let alone the first time on a track ever.
Jeff said he was already thinking about the fall school at SP. Hopefully will get to see you guys there again.
Jeff said he was already thinking about the fall school at SP. Hopefully will get to see you guys there again.
The rain definitely sucked.
It made for an interesting and frustrating introduction to performance driving and a tire wall.
Once the rain stopped the fun finally began. My biggest disappointment was after having gotten to the pole in the first practice start, I opened up a huge gap by turn one in the second start, and over cooked it and lost about 11 places by the time I got back on the track before turn three.
Had a great time battling with the RX7 and Miata for the length of the race. The Z torque won that battle as I pulled away coming out of the esses on the final lap.
It made for an interesting and frustrating introduction to performance driving and a tire wall.
Once the rain stopped the fun finally began. My biggest disappointment was after having gotten to the pole in the first practice start, I opened up a huge gap by turn one in the second start, and over cooked it and lost about 11 places by the time I got back on the track before turn three.
Had a great time battling with the RX7 and Miata for the length of the race. The Z torque won that battle as I pulled away coming out of the esses on the final lap.
Ron Earp
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Hey Steve, it was good to meet you up there at school and you and the MR2 looked great on track! Nice job!
That was a heck of a wet Saturday and I am VERY suprised the carnage wasn't a lot higher than it was. In fact, it was extremely low, even low for a dry school.
Lots of fun to watch, maybe we'll be back up there for the second school. That is a long way for us though in NC, heck of a drive with the last hour or so on some fairly small roads.
Ron
That was a heck of a wet Saturday and I am VERY suprised the carnage wasn't a lot higher than it was. In fact, it was extremely low, even low for a dry school.
Lots of fun to watch, maybe we'll be back up there for the second school. That is a long way for us though in NC, heck of a drive with the last hour or so on some fairly small roads.
Ron
steve b
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Yeah I felt sorry for you guys having that long drive Sunday night. I know I was glad I didn't have that drive. I think I mentioned to you guys, I'll be down your way at VIR Labor Day weekend running an HPDE with Mazda. Here's the link in case any of you would be interested.
http://www.mazdadrivers.com/
http://www.mazdadrivers.com/
jcmotorsports
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Ron and Jeff
I met you guys and didn't even realize it!!!!! I was there with the two Hankook Civics. Thanks for all the help with the bolt issue on the black car. It worked enough to get Greg signed off! I didn't feel comfortable enough to put him out there in the student race and his instructor agreed, but thankfully his instructor felt he was competant enough to pass. Will (white civic(my old car)) also passed so it was a succeessful weekend for all.
John Costello
I met you guys and didn't even realize it!!!!! I was there with the two Hankook Civics. Thanks for all the help with the bolt issue on the black car. It worked enough to get Greg signed off! I didn't feel comfortable enough to put him out there in the student race and his instructor agreed, but thankfully his instructor felt he was competant enough to pass. Will (white civic(my old car)) also passed so it was a succeessful weekend for all.
John Costello