SM vs. ITA Miata

[Greg Amy]

...if you want to race in ITA, and you insist on a RWD platform (which i pretty much do), then i can't think of a better option than a miata.[/b]

"Better"? Or just "easier 'cause I can buy all the parts and slap them on without having to do any development?" Looking through the GCR< I think any one of these has a very good shot at winning, if given the development:

- BMW 318
- BMW Z3
- Nissan 240SX
- Pontiac Fiero V-6
- Porsche 912E
- Toyota MR-2 (mk2)

Yup, you can't just go to the corner store and buy parts to slap on there, and the golden path isn't already lined up for you, but given the time and motivation any of these cars can win. I said the same thing about the Nissan B13 chassis (NX2000 and Sentra SE-R) 5 years ago, and proved it.

Who's next?

 

[tnord]

"Better"? Or just "easier 'cause I can buy all the parts and slap them on without having to do any development?" Looking through the GCR< I think any one of these has a very good shot at winning, if given the development:

- BMW 318
- BMW Z3
- Nissan 240SX
- Pontiac Fiero V-6
- Porsche 912E
- Toyota MR-2 (mk2)

Yup, you can't just go to the corner store and buy parts to slap on there, and the golden path isn't already lined up for you, but given the time and motivation any of these cars can win. I said the same thing about the Nissan B13 chassis (NX2000 and Sentra SE-R) 5 years ago, and proved it.

Who's next?
[/b]

better = easier in my book.

i definitely think the MR2 can win, we know the 240sx can, and i would say the 318 probably has a good shot as well. iirc, from what i've read stretch's 240 was a very finicky piece, and took lots and lots of care to run as well as it did. the MR2 and BMW don't have the development in them yet, and thus if i were looking for a new A car, i would stay away. let someone else spend the development money and figure out what works. as you know greg, that's pretty expensive.

the miata is pretty well sorted out except for maybe the ECU stuff and a little better header. i like to work on my car, but i don't like spending thousands on the same part over and over. i don't have that kind of cheddar. for these reasons, i think the 1.8 miata is the best RWD choice in A.

 

[Greg Amy]

...for these reasons, i think the 1.8 miata is the best RWD choice in A.[/b]

I would agree with you, if you added in a few words:

...i think the 1.8 miata is the best currently-developed RWD choice in A....

 

[tnord]

It is my opinion that the most competitive RWD chassis that already has been developed (and thus easier and cheaper to attain a top-level build) is the 1.8L Mazda Miata.

 

[Andy Bettencourt]

A well built motor, some sphericals in the suspension, proper cooling and some attention to timing, and the 240SX is the most balanced RWD car for ITA, for sure. The Miata is a specialty car - and it takes a ton to get it to where it is such in a decent race field.

 

[joeracerx95]

ITR? Too expensive, no competition.

Hey now Chuck! Step up, build an S2000 and lets race.

Don't forget ITR is a new class.
[/b]

John, please refer to your own user name. Are you suggesting moving away from a BMW!?!? Or are you going to move to an ITR BMW?

I can't get you to come to Pro7 and I can't afford a BMW for ITS, maybe we can meet up in ITA?

I looked at the S2000, 3000lbs, ugh. That's why I was suggesting it would make a good spec class, bring that weight down to something reasonable, spring and shocks, nice exhaust to go along with that 9000rpm redline, hmmmm.

-chuck-

 

[tnord]

A well built motor, some sphericals in the suspension, proper cooling and some attention to timing, and the 240SX is the most balanced RWD car for ITA, for sure. The Miata is a specialty car - and it takes a ton to get it to where it is such in a decent race field.
[/b]

can a built motor for one of those not fall on its face above 5k and still be relatively unblowupable?

 

[johnny yanez]

as matter of fact chuck, i threw out 3 complete exhaust systems in the last couple of weeks, that i had used in ITA rx7 and knowing me, i saved one header with exhAUST pipe and muffler lol call me,, 949 933 0098, its for sale like most of my stuff lol : johnny