Tire mounting machines

That's a good idea. The challenge will be that the machine shop has been out of business for a little while now and there's no power inside.

I'll have to look into all of this further. Thanks!!
 
Back when BFG R-1s were around....like 96ish, It took 2 guys (1 being me) to mount those with a 20-20... Rim clamp machines rule!!!!!!

I wasn't aware of the phase out of led weights, Thanks!
 
Uhm, I'm glad to see others are questioning the 20-20. I had a 10-10 that was given to me. It would not do race tires, regardless of how much I didn't care that the rims got scratched. Worked fine on soft sided tires on a steel rims (sold it to a guy who did off road stuff, he loved it). And now that Phil describes the potential problems I had a friend who had a wheel broken via a center post machine.

The 10-10 had a center post that turned and a bar that had a slot in the center that was turned by the center post to pull the tire up over the rim. I nearly sent my self to the hospital with it by hooking the bar under the tire & over the post, let go of it then stepped on the pedal. When the post turned the bar un-hooked and like a lever, flipped over and smashed me in the head. Drew blood and I saw stars & fell down & everything. Lucky it wasn't in the face or mouth.
 
Dave, you don't want a 20/20, do yourself a favor.
You'll be paying money to scrap it!
See you at the track!
 
Dave, don't.

I don't know how many here have seen the garage injury thread over at rrax, but that machine sounds like it is eating wheels AND has already planned a hit job on me... :blink:
 
MMiskoe said:
Uhm, I'm glad to see others are questioning the 20-20. I had a 10-10 that was given to me. It would not do race tires, regardless of how much I didn't care that the rims got scratched. Worked fine on soft sided tires on a steel rims.
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I used a 20-20 when I worked in a shop in the early 80's. As others have said, it was fine on soft tires (70+-series tires were the standard then, not today's 45 - 60-series). I remember our first "low-profile" customer - a Z-car with 60-series tires (pretty cutting-edge for 1984). Could barely get those tires on the rims with the 20-20..
 
ScotMac said:
I got the hose connector from Greg Smith Equipment, and my tire changer appears to be working well. Can't blame GSE for the problem, since my air PSI was high.

From my research, i don't think you can beat the their $1845 for a brand new modern rim clamp tire changer and dynamic, computerized wheel balancer combo:

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-WB11-Atlas-TC221-p/wb11-attc221.htm
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Local shop has a setup very similar to this. I haven't been cussed out like he did me in a long time.

Taking of 215/50/13 BFG R1'a from 1997 and mounting 225/45/13 A6's was a work out. The bead breaker had a hard time with the old R1's....stiff inner sidewall and all.
 
So far i've tried it on some 245/40/18 hankooks and some 225/50/14 z214 hankooks, and it had no problem w/ them. So, for my experience, it only works on hankooks! ;)

Oh, and their service response was great. They got the manufacturer of the air connector to send one (they actually sent 2), and the support tech got one off of a floor model and sent it, along w/ the entire center yoke of the tire changer! The one off of the floor models appears to be off of a much more expensive model.
 
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I have used one of the $45 HF manual tire changers for years. What a PITA! Works great on street tires, but the stiff side walls and tighter tolerances of race tires are a bear! Finally broke the end off trying to take R6's off some Revolutions. There is a local Bubba shop that charges $10 per tire to break the old one down, mount the new one and spin balance. I have seen some good deals from shops closing down, but not good enough to lose the floor space yet.

I looked at a Coats 20-20, but the fear of damaging rims and the fact that it weighs like 600 lbs kept me from getting it. It was on Ebay and I thought I could get it for about $250 and it was near where a car I was selling was going. Otherwise delivery can be a real savings killer.

Mike

Oh by the way, I know it seems like the at track guys are high priced, but remember, they hauled that equipment all the way to the track, are running it, gas, wear, etc. and may have guys there on the clock with them. If you add up what it costs, and then divy it up on the number of tires they will likely do, they are not making a lot of money.

M
 
FWIW, I believe the Craig's List machine should be "All Tool" brand, not "All Tire". These appear to be a re-branded Coats 50-XX, with which I have some familiarity. I bought a used 50-30 in decent shape last year for less than a thou, and I have had no big problems mounting or demounting Hoosiers (205/50, 225/45) on my 15x6 wheels with this machine.
 
Mike Mackaman said:
I have used one of the $45 HF manual tire changers for years. What a PITA! Works great on street tires, but the stiff side walls and tighter tolerances of race tires are a bear! Finally broke the end off trying to take R6's off some Revolutions. There is a local Bubba shop that charges $10 per tire to break the old one down, mount the new one and spin balance. I have seen some good deals from shops closing down, but not good enough to lose the floor space yet.

I looked at a Coats 20-20, but the fear of damaging rims and the fact that it weighs like 600 lbs kept me from getting it. It was on Ebay and I thought I could get it for about $250 and it was near where a car I was selling was going. Otherwise delivery can be a real savings killer.

Mike

Oh by the way, I know it seems like the at track guys are high priced, but remember, they hauled that equipment all the way to the track, are running it, gas, wear, etc. and may have guys there on the clock with them. If you add up what it costs, and then divy it up on the number of tires they will likely do, they are not making a lot of money.

M
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Thank you....we travel w/ $100,000 of equipment to every race we attend....not including tire inventory.
 
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