Stephen,
That has to be a missprint in the supps. How would the "late fee" kick in the 25th of July when the race is the 30th of August? Seems rediculous to me. Someone must've missed that.
R
RAL Regional
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Stephen,
That has to be a missprint in the supps. How would the "late fee" kick in the 25th of July when the race is the 30th of August? Seems rediculous to me. Someone must've missed that.
R
Andy Bettencourt
Super Moderator
We all know the NER events at NHMS provide excellent value. If entries are down, there has to be a reason. I submit it's a combination of:
1. Non NARRC race. Most people may not be chasing NARRC points but they still may be interested in racing against guys who populate those events.
2. Enduro. Limited (but intense) market of drivers
3. Later in the season...budgets low, cars need fixin'
4. Too many events. This will be about the 10th event this year. 3 more still to go.
Send a survey to those drivers who ran Pig Roast who don't come to this. That takes the 'phantom' NARRC issue out of it. There is a reason Jerry. You just have to figure out why. LESS EVENTS! But we all know this already.
1. Non NARRC race. Most people may not be chasing NARRC points but they still may be interested in racing against guys who populate those events.
2. Enduro. Limited (but intense) market of drivers
3. Later in the season...budgets low, cars need fixin'
4. Too many events. This will be about the 10th event this year. 3 more still to go.
Send a survey to those drivers who ran Pig Roast who don't come to this. That takes the 'phantom' NARRC issue out of it. There is a reason Jerry. You just have to figure out why. LESS EVENTS! But we all know this already.
StephenB
New member
I think NER should create new run groups, restructure the schedule, eliminate the late entry fee and post on every forum and e-mail every driver they have an e-mail for with the new schedule/groupings that show a TON of track time if they want it for the same entry fee! The trophies have been purchased, the track has been rented, and the majority of the entries are already registered. Now is the time for our region to pro-activly react and not wait until after to reflect on what coulda or what shoulda been.
If this was my business I was running I would be doing drastic things to try and improve / recover my losses if I could. Just waiting for the event to happen and or entries to populate will not get more people to show up. If NER can afford to only have this many entries then no big deal and forget everything I said.
My concern for NER is that they probably can't do any of this because their hands are tied by the sanction number and supps as they were written and approved.
Since I am not really involved behind the scenes and I don't know what actually happens and how the procedures work I can't really provide anything other than "what I would do in my imaginary world"
I will actually be going up supporting my friend Tim who is taking advantage of the short travel and reduced travel costs. He is hoping to get signed off on his novice permit this weekend
Another driver recruit for our club that NER has gained for years to come! The only reason I am not running is actually the maint. costs to run my car... tires, brakes and normal wear and tear are to much for me to absorb at this time.
If this was my business I was running I would be doing drastic things to try and improve / recover my losses if I could. Just waiting for the event to happen and or entries to populate will not get more people to show up. If NER can afford to only have this many entries then no big deal and forget everything I said.
My concern for NER is that they probably can't do any of this because their hands are tied by the sanction number and supps as they were written and approved.
Since I am not really involved behind the scenes and I don't know what actually happens and how the procedures work I can't really provide anything other than "what I would do in my imaginary world"
I will actually be going up supporting my friend Tim who is taking advantage of the short travel and reduced travel costs. He is hoping to get signed off on his novice permit this weekend
Another driver recruit for our club that NER has gained for years to come! The only reason I am not running is actually the maint. costs to run my car... tires, brakes and normal wear and tear are to much for me to absorb at this time.Stephen
It's not a late entry fee. We have a few decated registration workers who spend a ton of time preparing for each event. All early entries are pre done and ready at T&S on Friday evening. All racers who arrive at the track and then decide to enter create a lot of extra work for both registration and T&S. Everyone is encouraged to pre enter with NO penality for not running.
We NER offer the most track time for the least amount of money in the Northeast.
I'm happy with the amount of track time I get!
As far as consolidating race groups, great idea, just not mine! I have been running with the production and GTL guys this season in my SSM and it SUCKS! Not their fault or mine, it's just not fun racing! Consolidation will send entries away over time.
It's not a late entry fee. We have a few decated registration workers who spend a ton of time preparing for each event. All early entries are pre done and ready at T&S on Friday evening. All racers who arrive at the track and then decide to enter create a lot of extra work for both registration and T&S. Everyone is encouraged to pre enter with NO penality for not running.
We NER offer the most track time for the least amount of money in the Northeast.
I'm happy with the amount of track time I get!
As far as consolidating race groups, great idea, just not mine! I have been running with the production and GTL guys this season in my SSM and it SUCKS! Not their fault or mine, it's just not fun racing! Consolidation will send entries away over time.
lawtonglenn
New member
StephenB
New member
Jerry can you please confirm if it was a misprint for the late entry fee in the supps. It states anyone who did online registration after 7/25. That means that EVERY person that registered for this event is paying the $50 late fee and 2 people running the enduro with co drivers are paying a $100 late fee.
My friend Tim is considering running the regional and did register but didn't notice the $50 late fee when registering. He has also asked me to co-drive in the enduro and I may consider it if this was a misprint. If the $100 late fee is true we will not be.
Thanks for clarifying.
Stephen Blethen
PS the other RAL events this weekend have late fees after Aug 24th.
My friend Tim is considering running the regional and did register but didn't notice the $50 late fee when registering. He has also asked me to co-drive in the enduro and I may consider it if this was a misprint. If the $100 late fee is true we will not be.
Thanks for clarifying.
Stephen Blethen
PS the other RAL events this weekend have late fees after Aug 24th.
StephenB
New member
running for political office Stephen?
HEHE my wife has her masters in reading and writing and will not even consider looking at anything I have written... She goes into meltdown!
Stephen Blethen
dickita15
New member
Just to be absolutely clear. The early discount (ie, late fee) deadline is the Tuesday before the event.
Yes there is a typo in the supps.
The 3 hour enduro at $200 is a way super deal. I see a GTL car entered and my guess is it is a test session before they tow to Road America. $200 for 3 hours (plus qualifying) on a weekend. no time off from work, wow.
I remember one year Fred White entered for the track time, ran about an hour, went back to the paddock fueled the car, had a ham and cheese sandwich then buckeled in and ran another hour.
Yes there is a typo in the supps.
The 3 hour enduro at $200 is a way super deal. I see a GTL car entered and my guess is it is a test session before they tow to Road America. $200 for 3 hours (plus qualifying) on a weekend. no time off from work, wow.
I remember one year Fred White entered for the track time, ran about an hour, went back to the paddock fueled the car, had a ham and cheese sandwich then buckeled in and ran another hour.
Andy Bettencourt
Super Moderator
Has the EVER been a better deal on track time than that? Seriously. If you want to learn run NHMS, that is a steal!
RSTPerformance
New member
Any thoughts on combining all IT cars... Looks like this weekend is a FV and SM/SSM show... Let's see all the IT cars together and have a fun race!!!
Raymond
Raymond
Racer Chris
New member
I thought it was fun racing with SSM this weekend Jerry.
Woulda not been fun if you backed into me during your spin on lap 1 Saturday though.
Andy Bettencourt
Super Moderator
How about an IT recap from both days?
Racer Chris
New member
Saturday's Group 7 race, featuring the best (& worst) moments of any Miatas that were ahead of me.
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Well the RAL weekend was good. I want to thank all the course workers and emergency personal for all they do for us to race. Thanks for taking care of me after my wreck I had. I would like to say to all racers if you do not have a HANS or any type of head and neck restraint get one. I always had said that I hoped it was the worst $900 that I would spend on racing. For those who saw my car IT7 81 I am fine. No neck pain nothing. Again thanks to the workers and emergecy people that do this fo us every weekend.
JB Swan
IT7 81
JB Swan
IT7 81
lateapex911
Super Moderator
what happened?