When is a Start Not a Start?

Originally posted by RSTPerformance:

I want the extra credit!!!!

The race is NOT BEING RESTARTED! If the course goes to full course yellow it is simply a full course yellow. the race is still presuming just with caution and no passing. The only time you have a restart is when the race is stopped. The race was not stopped. We had a full course yellow only! (until they pulled us in with a black flagg to regrid us after the crazy lack of green.) When the yellows dropped the course was green end of story that's it.
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I'd give you points for effort, but this was already covered.

From the GCR 9.2.1 SAFETY CAR (Pace Car) Operation and Control

"Drivers shall maintain the pace established by the safety car and shall not improve their positions or begin racing until the green flag has been displayed and the race restarted."

It's clear that the race is not restarted until the green flag has been displayed.

No points awarded.


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George Roffe
Houston, TX
84 944 ITS car under construction
92 ITS Sentra SE-R occasionally borrowed
http://www.nissport.com
 
"I'd give you points for effort, but this was already covered.

From the GCR 9.2.1 SAFETY CAR (Pace Car) Operation and Control

"Drivers shall maintain the pace established by the safety car and shall not improve their positions or begin racing until the green flag has been displayed and the race restarted."

It's clear that the race is not restarted until the green flag has been displayed.

No points awarded."

I think stephen deserves full credit for realizig the race was NEVER STOPPED!!!

Gret ovbservation Bro... I am glad you have finaly realized I would have beat you!!!
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Raymond
 
Brothers Blethen,

The Pace Car was out. Sorry to say this but unless I got a green at the front, I wasn't racing - period. The back of the pack did the right thing by racing when the double yellow was dropped, we did the right thing by thinking wave-off when no green was thrown, and the Region did the right thing by regridding. The racers who were past the last corner station knew the track was not green yet. You can't improve on their positions...

This thread is dead. The drivers all did what they needed to do, there was confusion - and the Region made it right. End of story.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
06 ITS RX-7
FlatOut Motorsports
New England Region
www.flatout-motorsports.com
 
Originally posted by lateapex911:
Thats a tough one. Was the 210 fighting for position?

Still, and I know you don't want to hear this, your loss is not huge, they could have been nastier. Not that it would be deserved!

Passing under the yellow is a touchy subject. Did you have video? If you did and I was a steward, I would have wanted to go as easy as possible.

Another reason to run good video with a WIDE lens.
No video unfortunately. The only thing keeping the 210 from attempting a repass was the uphill esses. We were side by side until I hit the first apex of the uphills. Yes, he was contending.
The only answer from the Stewart was that I should rent the track to learn where the flagstations are, which is rather confusing because if no flags are flying what difference does it make where the stations are, and no flags appeared again until Oak Tree. I've held a lap record at VIR since 1974(SSSC), I feel I know the course well enough. And I may make mistakes like everyone else, but I don't pass under yellow.
Thanks for the sympathy.
G
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So, we've all talked and/or thought about (sometimes in that order (: ) this question. I think most folks saw the discussion simply as an academic exercise since the situation likely wouldn't occur again. This past weekend, on the pace lap, as the well formed pack approached the Start/Finish line, the Starter enthusiastically waved the Checkered flag and double yellows dropped like flies. What followed was 10 of the most spirited cool down laps I've ever seen. I guess it was a tie. Track records for everyone!!


Act I, Scene III. A double sarrc/marrs in the VIR hamlet.
( enter LORD SEVEN and KING HONDA)

Lord Seven
To start, or not to start: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler to mind the suffering of back markers
Or to sling arrows at the offending Steward,
And by opposing them, to paddock and not to restart?
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Billy Shakespeare Racing
(ex IT, now Prod driver)

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Okay you can all curse me for dragging this thing back to the top.



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-Scott Gallimore
-ITC #88 Pulsar
 
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